[Poll] Costco 'Cautiously Optimistic' to Open in 2013

Would you support a Costco coming to Yorktown? Representatives are "cautiously optimistic" to open in the fall of 2013. Public hearings for the big box store proposal are expected to be held in September.

Representatives of Costco Wholesale Club say the proposed 151,000 square-foot retailer on Route 202 in Yorktown in late fall of 2013.

The big box store, which will be build at an 18.75-acre site that currently houses an abandoned motel, a former gas station, nursery and two homes. The project is expected to alleviate some of the traffic congestion on Route 202 as well as create 350 construction and 200 permanent jobs, according to Costco representatives.

to read the full story about what Costco representatives told Yorktown Chamber of Commerce members about the project last week. Public hearings are expected to be held in September. 

The news sparked some comments from Yorktown Patch readers. Here is what readers wrote on our Facebook page

Linda Von Toussaint: "It's a known fact most projects even in your own home are not completed as one would like."

Sue Taylor: "Although I love Costco, I think the traffic at that part of town is already a nightmare. This will do nothing but make a bad situation much worse."

Becky Lou: "Sounds like an awful idea. Completely unnecessary."

Evan Bray: "Just join BJ's and your trip gets shortened. We already have an "extraordinary" big box wholesaler across the street from this site. There's a serious disconnect between the words coming out of the development team's mouths and the town planning realities of this site."

Ricki Butler: "Unnecessary. Traffic nightmare."

Take our poll above and tell us what you think of the porposed Costco. What questions would you like to ask Costco representatives?

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Evan Bray June 12, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Good point, JM. Peekskill almost more so than Yorktown. It has a charming, historic downtown basically on the Hudson line. For all it's hard times, it's really seeming to make a turnaround without any big box wholesalers. I hear they are even going to allow tattoo parlors soon :) I love being able to walk from the farmers market to Birdsall house or the Brewery for a Saturday brunch. Or to the coffee house or to check out the thrift stores or galleries, catch some Jazz at 12 grapes, etc... Agreed, this is the type of environment that attracts young, educated, well-paid professionals to buy up our depressed housing stock. Let's not let Peekskill take the lead. They probably won't give us any sewer capacity to build this monstrosity, so let's just hope it's a moot point. I think it's hard for the opposition to reasonable development of the land to see that creating a more livable, walkable environment in that area is the first step in attracting the types of people that will sustain us for generations to come. We want people in town that don't mind paying a little bit extra for variety, human scale walkability and character. All things Costco decidedly won't provide. People have said the nearest Costco is 30 mins away. That's really not that far. Depending on where you live it may even be closer. Also depending on where you live, it might take you nearly as long to get to this site. Ha!
Bill June 13, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Evan, that's a great idea, let's emulate Peekskill. Let's put lots of nice restaurants near our lovely old theater. Oh wait, we don't have one, other than the one in the YCCC (which is not lovely). And how can you in your right mind consider the area where Costco wants to go to be someplace where you could walk to when it's not near 99% of the residents of Yorktown (and that might be a low number). While we're talking about impractical things, lets get high end retailers to open in our downtown like they have in Mt. Kisco. You let me know how that works out. And Peekskill actually was trying to get a Target to open down by the waterfront, but it fell thru. Target is a big box retailer.
Bill June 13, 2012 at 12:30 AM
JM, continue to show your ignorance about Costco. According to Glassdoor.com, the average cashier salary at Costco is $15 Other positions pay much more.And they provide health insurance. Do you think that other retailers that would come to the area will pay as much? My source: http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Costco-Wholesale-Salaries-E2590.htm .
Tom June 14, 2012 at 01:49 AM
Bill, $15.00 an hour! That's not even going to support one person even in North Carolina. $15.00 an hour seriously, is that what we have reduced ourselves to here in Yorktown. We would have to endure this atrocity for jobs like that? Five or ten years ago this project would not even have been a consideration here in Yorktown. What have we become?? We can do much better, we can attact well educated professionals but we have got to think bigger than a discount store. C'mon people we can have a better vision for our town than this.
Bill June 14, 2012 at 02:06 AM
What have we become? Hopefully smarter about just rejecting development because it's viewed as bad by a few loudmouths even though it would benefit the community as a whole. Where are the higher paying jobs that you long for coming from? How much would jobs at the neighborhood shopping area that Evan longs for pay? I'll bet even less than $15. People go gaga when they talk about Trader Joes. Do you think they pay more? Do you care what the Starbucks employees get paid? This is just ridiculous. I know people whose spouses have retail jobs which pay much less than $15 per hour. I'm sure many people would be thrilled to have a job that paid that. Will it pay for a house in Yorktown? No, but why are we all of a sudden using that as a guideline for what we allow to open here, other than it being another excuse to say it's bad.
Tom June 14, 2012 at 10:47 AM
We need to attract chemists, engineers, accountants, scientists, high tech jobs. There is already attempts being made further down the county to make the county a bio high tech area. Those are real jobs and you can support a home with those types of jobs. Retail jobs are good for high school and college kids but we should set the bar higher. Look at Pepsico in Somers, Regeneron in Valhalla,etc.
JM June 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Bill... you funny man you. Whether Costco pays $5 or $20 makes no difference to me -- Tom stated it correctly and clearly enough that we need jobs here for scientists, engineers, database admin / software developers, etc., just to give a few examples. Bring those jobs in first... and tell ya what I'm gonna do: I'll stand with you my friend, holding and massaging your chafed hands and praising the big box god for bringing a Costco to town with its typically gross stucco facade walls, housing bulk items that for all these years everyone has managed to do without.
jo June 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM
yup just what we need Central Ave North.. guess all the folks who escaped north to this area.. will now feel right at home with the same old traffic.. soot.. ugly box stores and crowds they tried so hard to escape.. One box store is enough.. two box stores that close is obscene.. just think of all the Truck Traffic talking 19 wheelers. that will be on Rt 9 and 202 to supply this store...
jo June 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM
make that 18 wheelers.. lol
Bill June 14, 2012 at 01:05 PM
Think of all the truck traffic bringing packages to UPS in town. Do you see anyone complaining about that? How do you think BJ's, Staples, Party City, Best Plumbing, AC Moore get their packages? Do you ever see major truck traffic there? Think about the Cortlandt Town Center, do you see major truck traffic there? No, you don't. I strongly doubt that adding Costco will have any significant impact.
Bill June 14, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Have you forgotten about IBM? We have IBM Research on Route 134 and had them before any of the places you mentioned (or even IBM in Somers). And isn't there an empty office building on Strang Blvd off 202? I believe I've seen for rent signs there.
Bill June 14, 2012 at 01:12 PM
And once again, there is no warehouse club on Central Avenue. But I'll bet you folks who are opposing retail stores on 202 would love it if something you wanted came in -- like Trader Joes (conveniently located on Central Avenue), Whole Foods, Fairway. Also, on the few occasions I've been on Central Avenue recently (mostly on Hartsdale), traffic has moved very well. And open your eyes and realize that Route 202 is far uglier than any stretch of Central Avenue. Or were you just happy when 202 was filled with car dealerships? Those were lovely (and the ones that remain still are).
Joe June 14, 2012 at 02:06 PM
You could live on hat in some parts of NC, but it would be a stretch and you might need a second job. However, they probably wouldn't pay that much at an NC Costco. That being said, I don't want Yorktown to look like a bunch of NC strip malls. You certainly can't live on it here.
jo June 14, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Bill... there are many..many stores on Central /Av.. that is the fact.. and the traffic is a horror ..another fact.. lots of us moved up here to get away from that.. its a preference .. all these stores bring down the quality of life cause they bring with it traffic and congestion. 202 to the Taconic is a horror... we do not need to keep feeding that horror..
Francis T McVetty June 14, 2012 at 08:16 PM
Jo, its great that you have a job that pays so well and you can afford the tax increases. There are many that don't have WELL paying jobs like you or are retired. The 87% of us want more business's to share the tax burden. Less business's, more taxes paid by the homeowner.
Janice June 14, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Remember that time we could have had PepsiCo in Yorktown, but turned it down? Look who is reaping all the benefits now- not us. Our community has passed up too many opportunities to make the same mistake again. A community should be comprised of a mix of large stores and small businesses. Let's embrace this opportunity rather than turning it down because we think it might bring heavy traffic. Where are your facts? Is anyone aware that Costco's developer is actually going to alleviate our 202 traffic- an action that has needed to be taken for a long time? Do we really think a small business is going to fix this problem for us?
Francis T McVetty June 14, 2012 at 08:19 PM
Tom, tell us how YOU would get more scientists, engineers, scientists and high tech jobs here in Yorktown> I waiting to hear your brilliant plan. Please share it with us.
JM June 14, 2012 at 08:49 PM
Bill -- IBM? The greatest job reducer in the history of the Hudson Valley? One of the primarily reasons Westchester has been bleeding hi-tech and professional talent for the past 10 years... as our (including my own) jobs went India? Great corporate responsibility they have there, Bill. No, please we do not need another IBM or any firm that even remotely operates as they do.... especially when politicians cover their eyes (except Greg Ball). Francis: I have already sent a 20-page paper to the city of Peekskill to do two things, 1) Bribe Citi, Verizon, (and yes, IBM too) to set up a satellite service centers here. IBM is already doing this in Dubuque, Citi plans to, its not rocket science. They are bringing jobs back from India now (because Indian talent fails to meet the need) so bring them to Peekskill. And, 2) Foster startups, compete with expensive real estate in Manhattan. Simple, and doable in six months - rewards though can pay for themselves decades into the future. I won't let this rest either.
Tom June 14, 2012 at 11:18 PM
Francis - How did Somers get Pepsico, Valhalla and Hawthorne develope a high tech community, Yorktown get IBM, Westchester get more fortune 500 companies than any other county? Don't try to proove your argument by putting the burden on me. I am not a developer but it can obviously be done here if it can be done in other communities including Yorktown with IBM. With all due respect to you dont be such a defeatist, keep the bar high and dont settle for a box store. Lets not settle for this because of the promise of sewers, less traffic, if you can believe that and $150,000 per year in taxes, which will do nothing to alleviate the burden on the rest of us. We deserve and can do much better than a discount store. If you dont believe attracting real jobs, as opposed to 15 dollars per hour jobs and high tech jobs to Yorktown and Westchester is possible I think you are mistaken and I certainly wouldnt be accepting this with the promise of sewers for a select few. We have a very educated workforce here when compared to most of the rest of the country, that is a big attraction for these companies and that is why they are in this region.
Bill June 15, 2012 at 12:27 AM
I got that number from the Glass Door website, which is where real people report. I have no reason to believe that it is not accurate. As I have stated repeatedly, Costco is routinely rated as one of the best places to work in nationwide studies. If you have proof to show otherwise (and I mean proof, not your personal beliefs that it's not possible), please post it here. I know the whole opposition thing isn't based on fact, so I've learned not to to expect truthful information, anyway. http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Costco-Wholesale-Salaries-E2590.htm .
Bill June 15, 2012 at 12:48 AM
Despite what you say about IBM, fact is I'm pretty sure they are still the #1 employer in Yorktown (unless it's considered Ossining, since that is where the building actually is).
JM June 15, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Bill, while this is off topic, glassdoor is no better or worse than anyone's opinion.... teenagers love logging in and pretending to submit information for their own kicks. But for our kicks here, priceviewer.com says Costco starts at $10, payscale.com shows a starting range of salaries as low as $7.39, there is a $9.64, $11.34, and $12.44 and lastly, your favorite, glassdoor doesn't just show just $15, Bill. It also shows $11.61, $15.40, $12.17, $11.54 and $11.56. So - let us put all these figures together -- and voila, good luck making those salaries and still being able to afford an $11,000 annual property tax bill (which is mine) let alone other costs of living.
Bill June 15, 2012 at 02:58 AM
In my post where I mentioned it, I said the AVERAGE salary was $15. Don't go blaming me because you folks who don't believe it chose to just use that as the salary. It holds much more credence than your claim (which we all know you just made up because you have no personal knowledge about this stuff) that it maxes out at $12. I'll take my info over your max of $12 any day, although I'm sure that the Costco haters won't because it's based on actual information rather than your vast knowledge. If you think that teenagers just post bogus information on these sites and that is the excuse you want to use for not believing it, just be my guest (of course, I think it's just made up like the rest of your posts). Then I'm sure you'll explain with your great wisdom why the results of the Fortune best companies to work for puts Costco at #28. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2011/snapshots/2649.html
Bill June 15, 2012 at 03:00 AM
This site says $8-15.50 for cashiers. Tell me that high school students hacked it as well. http://www.moneyandbusiness.com/careers/compensation/salary/average-salaries-costco I can find more if you want to claim that that website isn't accurate, either.
Bill June 15, 2012 at 03:06 AM
Payscale.com shows a range of $9.64-21.40 for cashiers, even higher than glassdoor. Stockers started at $7.39 and went up to $21.70. You won't even post full information from a site that you refer to, since of course it would show how clueless you are about this.
Tom June 15, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Bill- Find someone who now works for a fortune 500 company who would want to work for Costco and you will get my point. Who cares if its 10 bucks or 15 bucks per hour, its hilarious to watch this debate. The point here is Yorktown can do much better than Costco and it must if it wants to attract professional people and bolster the local economy.
Bill June 16, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Find someone who doesn't work for a Fortune 500 company (or any company at all) and ask them if they'd like to work for Costco. Ask someone who might be looking for a part time job and ask them. And JM was the one who brought up the salary issue when they claimed it was minimum wage, and then foolishly offered to sell me a bridge if I believed that they paid $15/hour (and then posted bogus numbers and even more foolishly posted the source). Now that I've proven that they pay fairly well for retail, you want to say that it's not an issue. And the YCP always mentioned here had retail in that location. So why are we all of a sudden concerned about salaries? Oh wait, it's because it's not the RIGHT kind of retail for your liking. And what would these fictitious professional people do for the local economy? Shop at the local delis and supermarkets? A popular retail store will do far more for the local economy than any office building would.
Carol June 22, 2012 at 09:42 PM
It's called p-r-o-g-r-e-s-s. It's not "Costco" per se, or any other box store. Even the Temple was fought about and eventually turned down.
Gia October 12, 2012 at 10:46 PM
People have to be aware that the True Cost of Costco to our community is irreparable damage to the environment, flora, fauna of the area, our health and health of our kids, viability of our small businesses, historical preservation of our peaceful town and mere convenience of getting home on time with all the traffic that's coming to Route 202.
Bill October 12, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Seriously, you needed to post on a 4 month old article? Exactly what historical preservation will Costco destroy? And you're talking about one relatively small patch of land in a how many square mile town? I think Yorktown will be able to survive that. But please keep making stuff up, it's fun to read.


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